i dont have a problem with giving a baby a bottle of formula thats adopted. To establish bf with an adopted baby is a lot of time and work... so to send a bottle, with an adopted baby is fine with me.

i too agree for REAL LIVE babies that breast is best. But i hardly think that what i choose to send with a reborn will effect the choices a Real Life mother will make.

I personally believe we need to encourage and support real bf mothers and leave the bf debate out of our reborns, simply because it appears as bf nazis, and this i know puts a heck of a lot of women off bf for real.

lets calmly remind ourselves, as gorgous and real life as we make them their still dolls....

CindyJ, I think we will have to agree to disagree on that one

Yes, it will and it will effect her children's choices also because it sends them a not so subtle message that babies drink from bottles. For this reason I choose not to include bottles at all with my babies.

obviously, but you are missing the point. They are life like dolls, ie, they represent real life babies. I see myself as having a responsibility to market my dolls in a way that also suits my morals and ethics.

I resent the use of the word, 'nazi' here and I do hope this will be edited. Nazi's were responsible for the deaths of millions of incident people and using such a word in association with breastfeeding advocacy is highly insulting.

That's a good point. I wasn't thinking of the babies as being 'adopted.'


You may have guessed that I work in the area of women and baby health (childbirth educator, Pregnancy, Birth, Postpartum Doula, Lactation counsellor) so this is something that is close to my heart. I have seen many mothers give up breastfeeding at the first hint of trouble, or mothers who don't even give it a go, because of this societal belief that feeding with artificial milk is just as good. It is the subtle social conditioning that does this and much of that comes from having almost every baby doll you find in a toy shop coming with a fake bottle of fake milk. For this reason, I choose not to include bottles with my babies.

and i breastfed 3 of my 4 kids.

i extended breastfed all of the breastfed ones.. including my last that i breastfed to 3.5 years.

i also bf while pregnant and know the statistics on bf.

i was bottlefed as were all my sibblings due to the fact my mother couldnt breastfed, no matter what she tried.

i encourage women to breastfeed, and the fact that as a child i gave my doll a bottle and saw all my sibblings have bottles had no effect on how long i breastfed for.

the problem with lactation consultants is they reach the women too late, usually long after some have made a decision to bottle feed.


i would be really disturbed if women chose to bottle feed based on the fact they pretend to give their fake babies (reborns) a bottle.

i also was really pissed when i was in babys galore i think it was.. i was waiting for service and the sales lady was talking to a prengnat lady and her hubby. she was trying to sell them everything. she asked about bottles, the mother was adament she was bf... the sales lady tried to say well if anything goes wrong its good to know the options that are available, again the mother explained she wanted to bf, not bottle feed.

these things i think will effect a person a lot more then giving a doll with a bottle of stuff that represents milk.

besides which i market mine as a bottle of baby milk, not formula. i also personally know taht both women who bought my dolls, one is an older lady and the other has a son and wont be having more kids.

i think that at times mothers are driven to bottle feeding because of the presure to bf and the negativitiy they see and hear in daily life.

Hi Guys,

interestin reading to say the least and I would love to put my two cents worth in, however this is not the site for that. I also have very strong views on the subject but as I said this is not the place.
There is a new website up and running which I visit and this would be an ideal place to list your points of view especially yours Cindy as I feel you would create some heated discussions.
The site is for adults only, no porn or smut but it is an unrestricted site where you can say what you like about pretty much anything.
All the same it is not for the faint hearted and appears to be run by a woman, mostly for women and as I said this type of debate is perfect for this site.
http://www.bitchvent.com

This post was last modified: 12-25-2008 12:55 PM by andama.

thanks for the website.. but i hear enough of the kids bitching plus my hubbys ex and her bit.

i wont go on with my views on breast feeding here primarily because theres no point. we make dolls, that how ever beautiful they are, are just that.

certianlly the fact i bottle feed all my dolls has nothing to do with how i choose to feed my real kids.

its funny though and i have noticed this... that kids of mothers that bf... or see a baby breast feed, when it comes to feeding their doll or teddy, lift their top, place said toy in position and feed LOL

i certianally noticed this with my kiddos.

merry christmas everyone!!